Story : The pandemic has fast turned Australia into two countries - the COVID states, and the COVID-free states, with border closures now a brutal necessity. So, how does Australia stay united? Also, it is vital we can trust our sources of news and information during a pandemic. Conspiracy theories, fake news and the influence of big tech are all under the microscope, as a new code comes into force requiring the digital giants to pay old media for news content. Will that solve the problems? Joining Hamish to discuss all of this are: Barnaby Joyce, Nationals Member for New England; Michelle Rowland, Shadow Communications Minister; Antoinette Lattouf, journalist and diversity advocate; Niki Savva, columnist and author; Ziggy Ramo, musician; and Sinead Boucher, Chief executive and owner of Stuff Ltd.